Try the Catholic Church if you want truth! John says that the congregation has a responsibility to refuse all support for such teachers. 29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. In the end, I need to know what I believe, and make sure my life aligns with it, before I start pointing fingers at others. (Here and Here)  Piper, who holds to a complementarian view, has received a lot of heat for sharing teaching duties with a woman who claims false teacher Joyce Meyer as her mentor. I spend most of my time focusing on my OWN Bible study through prayer and time in the Word, as it is important for me to grasp a solid understanding of His word for myself (with the backing of the Holy Spirit) BEFORE I start delving into what other people have to say about the Bible, commentaries, and like. This woman of God, like every other women of God has a powerful testimony, this woman of God, like every other women of God is a powerful witness of Christ Jesus that makes the name of Jesus great. I’ve always kept a “feel good” file – I really like the name “Good Mojo”! ”. You may see that as “liberal-feminism” or call me a “heretic”, but I see that as the Christ in me touching the heart of someone who had lost his way. The smile on Christine Caine’s face is as striking as the shock she felt when she uncovered the secret her parents kept from her. Thanks to Christine, I plan on inviting several lost people to study the Bible with me this Easter season. Not every purveyor of false teaching is a lackey of the Devil. In this daily... Lire la suite. That you are defeated. I am WAY too busy aligning my own life with the scriptures to spend too much time pointing fingers at others. “I ask these questions in curiosity as I’m truly baffled by the material I find here – and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow.”. 2:14). ” Many of the people you are tearing down are God’s people and are in the faith, running the race.”. I don’t know why I go searching for these articles. We rebuke it because we don’t want people to be misled. Living in the archaic mindeset that a woman’s place is in the home negates part of what God created and presumes mankind will not grow and adapt over time. I don’t care if its a man or a woman who pulls me out of the oceans of apathy and despair, saving my life and soul. Futurism/Transhumanism They only care for themselves. Why aren’t you obeying Matthew 18 and seeking ways to reach out to these people yourself? Are you ready to pick up your mat and live the life God has for you? I know there is a BIBLICAL way of calling someone out for false teaching, and anonymously posting on a site behind their backs is NOT IT. “I thank God for all of the women who followed the call of God and took up their crosses, facing so much opposition in the process. You keep posting all these articles (written by men) about what people SHOULD do to confront false teachers, and talking about what you WILL do, but you are not answering my questions about what YOU ALREADY DO AND HAVE DONE and how WHAT YOU ALREADY DO AND HAVE DONE aligns with scripture. In no way was I attacking anyone, if it came across like that, then I apologize, that was not the intent. l suppose you believe “judging” others is wrong correct? It’s so sad I just can’t un see all this bologna you all have a blessed life I’ll pray for you In Jesus name, Karen, I completely agree with you. I have seen words tear apart friendships, relationships, business partnerships, and churches, and so I want to use mine responsibly. The whole conference is being streamed live on YouTube. As I’ve said before, if this is leading people to Christ or causing teachers to repent, then AMEN. A Berean? Those who respond to biblical correction reveal that they have the Spirit and are under the command of Jesus. I thank God for all of the women who followed the call of God and took up their crosses, facing so much opposition in the process. God is beyond amazing, yet Meyer and Caine trample His commandments. Pardon me, but I need to focus WAY more on that before someone else. Oh what horror! What Christ? São bênçãos na minha vida e de milhares!!! The enemy does not want you to live a passionate life. 3:3). In Galatians 2, Paul says that he opposed Peter for not being “straightforward about the truth of the gospel” (Gal. Your absolutism leaves people out or puts them in little pigeonholes that fit with your rigid logic of scripture. (Micah 6:8, ESV). As we came closer to the time of Christ, mankind in its rebellious teenage years, we had the lessons of the prophets. In this humorous story, she recalls how her faith led to a "divine connection." Using the bible as a standard? Thank you for subscribing, sharing, reviewing and listening. I write this as a Baptist, and so I would argue that the excommunication is a congregational responsibility and not something that pastors can impose alone (e.g., 1 Cor. Or when I’ve pointed something on their website that was completely false, the usual response? And so I will go to the king, which is against the law; and if I perish, I perish!”. Recalcitrance in the face of correction is dangerous, and it is why the apostles would often apply some of the most bone-chilling descriptors to unrepentant false teachers. I am perfectly okay with agreeing to disagree. Without blemish or lies, we strive with and warn others of the impending judgement​ coming upon this world. (Marin) “I know I’m glad Manny and Amy don’t have a heaven or hell to put people in, because it sounds like they’d throw Lydia and Priscilla in. Are you intimidated by the words, testimony, presence of a powerful woman of God? Christine Caine treats the bible in this sermon in a similar way how a clairvoyant will speak vague things into a persons life as though they are predicting a persons fate/destiny. Calling out a false teacher? But Christine Caine is here to speak above that noise with the truth of how God sees you, and who he’s created you to be, so you can make his name famous! – Christine Caine. Besides usurping the pastor role, her teachings are not biblical. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul who’s purpose in life is to point people towards heaven. Wolf? The couple founded Equip & Empower Ministries, which seeks to aid the development and growth of Christian churches and church leaders. “People like you?” Please be specific. Breaking fellowship might seem a hard thing to do, but remember, if a sister persists in her sin or won’t hear you after giving them the scriptures, that means they have already broken fellowship with Jesus. Now, on to Christine Caine. She is so dynamic in her writing and you really get a glimpse of her passion and her heart. Shame can take on many forms. Whether you point that out or not. It’s the will to persevere even in the face of fear. Perhaps this is where we are talking past each other. Or, as SBTS President Dr Al Mohler put it, a prosperity movement for millennials that minimizes the Gospel content and diffuses a presentation of ‘spirituality’ instead. I do not talk about ministries I have not had any sort of direct contact with. 2. So, I guess Queen Esther is in hell? Christine Caine is part of the rise of the Feminine Church of Eden. She currently resides in Sydney, Australia. Paul ratchets up the rhetoric when facing down serious error coming from Hymenaeus and Alexander: Some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. In her passionate style, she explains that if we want to change our futures, we have to believe God is bigger than our mistakes, our inadequacies, our pasts, and … 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! Christine Caine (Auteur) God is bigger than your current story. Where does it say it’s ok to have others do the confronting for you? I’d like to know.”. We can’t save anyone, we present the unadulterated Gospels, we present Jesus as the only way to The Father, the only way to salvation. Jakes conferences, Joel Osteen conferences, Bethel conferences, at Perry Noble’s church, Robert Morris’ church and conferences, Rick Warren’s church, and Steven Furtick’s church and conferences (all to co-ed audiences) just to name a few. was the author of this article abused as a child and had Jesus heal their heart? I disagree that Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, Beth Moore and Priscilla Shirer are false teachers. People are afraid of what they do not understand. So here’s the question we have to ask and answer anytime we are refuting error. We must be careful not to imply through our associations affirmation of false teachers. But Christine Caine is here to speak above that noise with the truth of how God sees you, and who he’s created you to be, so you can make his name famous! Caine and her husband Nick are best known for founding The A21 Campaign in 2008, a 501non-profit, non-governmental organization that combats human trafficking, as well as … It comes across as VERY condescending, haughty, and insulting, as if you are laughing at someone who is “too stupid” to go elsewhere. I know I am using a generalized context, as some would argue that ministering is different then ‘preaching’ or ‘teaching’. You have NOT confronted them to their faces. Good night read your Bible berean and how about not ” twisting” it when you do so. Christine Caine: One Bible passage I would encourage women to read is Psalm 139:4 as this Scripture speaks directly to our “who.” It says, “I am fearfully and wonderfully made.” To me this Scripture is so powerful because it does not say, “You are fundamentally flawed and worthless”—which is the message of shame. Maybe you should try reading the word again. They were completely syncretic with the pagan worship of that day. While I understand having a passion for the scriptures (it is a passion of mine as well, as it hurts me to see people misled via ignorance of the scripture…and I have lost friends to cults this way), I do not believe it is beneficial to you, the Christian church, the gospel message, or the lost who need to be saved for you to go about attacking Christine’s ministry online. You can’t add or take away from the gospel and that’s what they are doing. 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. I’ll call it straight to their face! Moreover, the congregation must not behave in any way that might indicate endorsement of their false teaching. Where is that Biblical? A pastor can’t be the kind of guy who can’t accept an apology or recognize repentance when he sees it. How is a comment like Michael’s supposed to attract a lost soul? I never said those ministries were okay. Response to correction reveals whether you are dealing with a brother or with a wolf. Is it getting people to repent? http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/false-prophets-and-teachers/, Wow all I have to say is thank God he will be judging me & not you people All I see you doing here is turning people away from God spewing such hate, who are you to judge? They are not rightly preaching the word, along with a long list of other prosperity teachers. When learning we have a responsibility to also study and pray with diligence and seek God’s will not blindly follow the teachings of any man or woman. CAN YOU CAST THE FIRST STONE? Catholicism (RCC) You are not confronting directly, and you know it. Christine Caine travels the world teaching the Gospel and inspiring her audience to reach their God-given purpose and potential. Christine’s desperate search for her roots turned up a birth certificate. Get your free copy today at ChristineCaine.com. Karen, you need to go back and read the meaning of scriptural judgement, we judge those that call themselves Christians, we don’t judge the outside world, read his the Bereans were described for being judges, they compared every teaching with scripture. So you’re assuming I never emailed none of the people over the years? The only teachers whom the church supports are those whose teaching is in accordance with the standard of divine truth (3 John 8). Again, I didn’t think that was your intention and so I thought I’d just bring it to your attention. 1. I think it was exclusively as a result of distrust as well as disobedience. Y’all are the best. She is a product of, has held leadership positions at, and is closely affiliated with Hillsong², which is, undeniably, a Word of Faith “church.” Christine is a regular contributor to the Hillsong blog page, the Hillsong web site maintains a bio page on her, and she is a regularly featured speaker at Hillsong’s Colour Conference for women and other Hillsong events. Now, aren’t you judging by referring to others here as ‘Pharisees’? “I think this is a site for pharisees.” Pray tell how? Are lost today. People are too busy being judges more than preaching the Bible. I'm so glad that you're joining us today. No – we would feel convicted bc that symbol was created for the very purpose of rebelling against God. Nick Caine – As CEO of The A21 Campaign and Pastor of Zoe Churches, Nick is passionate about empowering the local church and about seeing human trafficking abolished everywhere forever.With more than fourteen locations around the globe, he can be found on a plane, on his phone, or with the three loves of his life: Christine, and his daughters Catherine and Sophia. At the beginning of the class, and many of the students were skeptical. What do you think you can do differently to appeal to the masses that you should be trying to save? In conclusion, what’s the point of confronting false teachers? 2) What is the role of a single women & widows in the church, if she is not preoccupied with the duties of wife and mother? Her own name was recorded as … ABOUT THE PODCAST We live in a world that whispers that you're not enough. majrooh sultanpuri books; Tags . – Christine Caine We have certainly been … Wolves are loners. It’s A Penalty is designed to educate and equip sports fans and the general public in Tampa Bay for Super Bowl LV with necessary information about human trafficking. You should be afraid to follow a wolf, it’s spiritually lethal, and if you read your bible it says to be aware of those spreading error and twisting scripture. It is articles like this and people like you that make people afraid to go to church. You are also bearing false witness ( you accuse of jealousy, envy and trouble making) and you’re judging out of pride and emotion, this is the way Christ forbids us to judge. Yet who knows whether you have come to the kingdom for such a time as this?”, 15 Then Esther told them to reply to Mordecai: 16 “Go, gather all the Jews who are present in Shushan, and fast for me; neither eat nor drink for three days, night or day. Christ and Paul confronted people DIRECTLY. Though they may not be spot on in everything, they are still teaching the gospel and people are coming to Christ. I sadly find some of this ridiculous. I would say the fawning over Christine Caine and other false teachers is more akin to being cult like. You guys sound more like a Witch Hunt than Christians bad example for Christianity. Wow. “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Instead of this kind of criticism, you should do as they do, pick a subject on your experiences, teach & encourage pole to walk in Jesus Christ. If God called them to preach then who are you to deny what God has called them. We get consumed by the routine tasks, and neglect what our lives really need. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme (1 Tim. Not tell EVERYBODY ELSE but them. Why don’t you pick up scripture and compare what she says to what the word of God says? Don't miss a powerful night at the Live Unashamed Tour with Christine Caine and Kari Jobe! God knows who the wolves are. Paul even confronted Peter to his face about his hypocrisy in front of the fellowship. Blessings. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Because women did not possess the same equality rights as modern women, it appears unusual that Lydia would be capable of inviting a group of foreign men to her house without a man’s consent. Marin, before you apply anything to your life from C. Caine perhaps you can use your discernment to see the wolf under the sheep costume. Treating God as a “Source” of power and energy for the purpose of our bidding is no different than conjuring spirits from the dead. If marriage alone (or in the case of a woman) who wants to minister or have a place in some form of leadership or influence in the church is only legitimized in ministering through the oversight of her husband, then that would appear to be highly problematic for 2 reasons: 1) What then is the role of Jesus as our heavenly/spiritual husband (as emphasized in Mathew 25/ Isaiah 54:5)? The Bible clearly forbids this in a number of passages. Contemplative Prayer In this 7-session study, you’ll develop a new understanding of how God sees you and has chosen you to help make Jesus’ name known on this planet. It’s God’s job to judge them, and those who were false teachers will be judged all the more sternly. In doing so, you are also females teaching the word. Michelle, if the “Christ” you follow is the “Christ” that Christine Caine espouses, then it’s not the Christ of the Bible. Caine's maiden name is Caryofyllis. When you question someone’s salvation, you are questioning their citizenship in heaven. If we would be faithful to Christ, we must be willing to impose the most extreme sanction that the church has to battle false teachers. If you know and read your bible that is quite obvious. I think we have to be careful here. In the meantime, I pray for truth to pervade where lies now take hold. International evangelist and author Christine Caine, poses with copies of her 2016 book, Unashamed. Sorry, Christine Caine nor Joyce Meters is Esther, do what Esther did nor follow what is commanded: “13 And Mordecai told them to answer Esther: “Do not think in your heart that you will escape in the king’s palace any more than all the other Jews. Christine Caine is an ordained pastor of her “church” in Australia, and also regularly speaks and travels without her husband. Did you know that Lydia and Priscilla are both listed BEFORE their husbands in the book of Acts because the writing style of the day indicated listing the LEADER of the household FIRST? His important and humbling messgae to us all was that we need to be willing to sit down with those who (we claim to be false) or maybe are not false but have poor doctrinal beliefs and work with one another. Better Together LIVE | Episode 186 Details » Meyer teaches word of Faith heresies that are available for anyone to read. If all we’re trying to do is put red meat before the congregation or drive up blog stats, that’s not really a good motive. …2Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction. For a good laugh I guess. Please show us where we have been prideful. Excerpt: The only thing we can suggest you are about to hear is something you would expect a clairvoyant to say. 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. Your talent will open the door but only your character can keep you there. till seven times? But perhaps Christine Caine’s best known and most worrisome bond is with false (Word of Faith) teacher Joyce Meyer. Presumptuous, ridiculous and like a Christine Caine “sermon” unbiblical. Theologians disagree as to whether Lydia was a free woman or servant. 20 + years of applying her teachings and continuing to learn from her as well as many others has taught me that our God is so much bigg e and more amazing than any human mind can comprehend. Powered by hot, extra-dry, skinny cappuccinos, Christine is a lover of words who speaks too fast, talks too much, and still manages to write them down. Known for her ability to communicate profound messages of hope and inspiration, Christine has a heart for reaching the lost, strengthening leadership, championing the cause of justice and building the local church globally. The word “avoid” is from (ekklino) which means, “to turn away from, to turn aside, turning away from those who cause offences and occasions of stumbling, turning away from division makers and errorists.” It seems that we are enjoined to keep out of their way and not fall in with them. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. I have also lost friends to cults due to their lack of knowledge of the scriptures for themselves, and it breaks my heart every day. Totally agree with her being a false teacher and not a pastor as its not Biblical. Has the author of this article suddenly become God and we are unaware of it? They preach the word. Bestselling author, speaker, and activist Christine Caine helps you overcome past guilt and live an unashamed life. Go take it to them personally. In other words, false teachers become subject to the church’s discipline. "This tour is based on Christine's most transparent and vulnerable book to date - Unashamed - and these nights of ministry are all about encountering God in a new way as they help you break free from what was once one of Christine's greatest strongholds - shame. . It isn’t easy, but it is simple. “But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. That is the CLEAR difference. There are two kinds of false teachers: those who repent and those who do not. What do we know really? Get your free copy today at ChristineCaine.com. Paul wrote letters DIRECTLY to those who were out of line…he didn’t write to everyone else BUT them. Confused as why you added, traveling without her husband. Shame can take on many forms. Christine Caine “is a lover of Jesus, wife to Nick, and mum to Catie and Sophie. (Marin) “I’m pretty confident that both of these women were richly blessed.”. Is it winning people to Christ? Wow. Thank you, Amy, for cleaning this up. Jakes accept an invite to speak in a room with some reformed guy’s in 2012 to discuss his belief in the oneness dcotrine of the church to which he categorically spoke of his background in that momvement and how since then he has moved away from that doctrine toa trinitarian doctrine, he was asked every question of the beliefs of the Chrsitain faith and affirmed them all. Yes, I do know you to say such a thing. It's my greatest desire to live a life that is pleasing to God. Paul wrote letters DIRECTLY to those who were out of line…he didn’t write to everyone else BUT them. I respect your passion for “exposing” others–I have a similar passion around making sure people know the Bible for themselves so they can be appropriately discerning and have a solid foundation rooted in THEIR OWN knowledge (and not what someone else says or teaches), as I believe faith grows by hearing the word YOURSELF. Loved the circle maker. We went to church and developed our faith based on our trust in God, which often meant trusting people who failed us. When we as Christians criticize each other we in public settings we become a stumbling block for the lost and a weapon of the enemy.”. Man’s heart is deceitful, and beyond cure…..Jeremiah 17:9. I did grow to understand the writing style of scripture and understand why Lydia, Priscilla, and other women of the Bible were called out in specific order. You are not confronting directly, and you know it. Like the Old Testament is a handbook for raising small children, and the prophets are a way of example for teenagers, the New Testament serves as a college level class on living. The most I have heard Christine Caine & Joyce Meyer teach on is forgiveness, healing process and how to move on in Jesus Christ. As Priscilla is always paired with her husband, Aquila, it is difficult to separate her and place her on a pedestal of her own. Simon the Magician tired to grab the power of the Spirit the wrong way and he was cursed for it. You’re sitting behind a keyboard, hiding behind the “well others did the confronting for me” argument, which just isn’t in scripture. There are many other denominations that have been around for years that teach false doctrines Scientology and Jehovah’s Witnesses come to mind. Unafraid with Christine Caine I want to start off by sharing why I invited my friend Christine Caine to share about living a life unafraid. They called people out TO THEIR FACES, whether in speech or by letter. “God uses different people to reach the lost because every lost person is different”. The reason is obvious. II John 9-11. I’m genuinely interested (as I’m sure others are on this site) about how it went. I have seen and experienced the damage of hearsay, twisted words, misunderstood contexts, and the like, and I also am an avid believer that the Lord will hold me accountable for every word I say (or type), including how those words impact the reputation, feelings, faith, and guidance of others. Bestselling author, speaker, and activist Christine Caine helps you overcome past guilt and live an unashamed life. Christine Caine (born September 23, 1966) is famous for being activist. ” I pray that you would humble yourself before the mighty hand of God.”. You will have to stand before God in all things that you have said including the ways you are talking about God’s people here. I was also surprised, because I never shared my faith with him (after all, I’m a woman, and we know believers like you would’ve burned me at the stake for sharing my faith with a man). Libra is an air sign represented by the scales, an association that reflects Libra's fixation on balance and harmony. "This tour is based on Christine's most transparent and vulnerable book to date - Unashamed - and these nights of ministry are all about encountering God in a new way as they help you break free from what was once one of Christine's greatest strongholds - shame. You want to be a woman of God? I and pray that evil will not flourish. “I know there is a BIBLICAL way of calling someone out for false teaching, and anonymously posting on a site behind their backs is NOT IT.